Forums - anti storm help Show all 72 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Strategy & Tactics (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10) -- anti storm help (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2750) Posted by fei long on 01:03:2001 11:52 PM: how would i stop a storm , around my arcade people use her to chip and fly high where i cant attack, how would i stop her with a cable spiral and cyclops? if i cant beat her i might just use her instead of cyclops good idea? ~Payce ouT~ Posted by Dr. Deelite on 01:04:2001 12:02 AM: CapCom or BH AAA. Spiral can teleport up to Storm, but when people do that to me I just lightning attack straight up and then lightning storm to punish Spiral. Cyke or Cable can sj and MOB or AHVB, but Storm can go higher than them. That team can't do much once Storm's airborne. ------------- "Outta my way!" Posted by Voodoo on 01:04:2001 12:04 AM: Time it right and throw a scimitar? Anyhow try and pop her when she's on the ground. And dash in between the typhoons. Is the last part of Cyc's assist a vertical fierce shot (i cant remember)? If so, you might want to try that. Heh, Storm is annoying. ~v00 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.gamegen.com/Gamepics/animations/cammy2.gif We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. Posted by Pryde on 01:04:2001 02:47 AM: I wonder if I played you the other night with my Storm.... Was you at GT the other night? I think it was sunday... Posted by Monkey on 01:04:2001 05:44 AM: sups pryde, havent talked to u in awhile..and i thought you said you were givin mvc2 a rest for awhile..?! http://www.geocities.com/to2008/Motag.gif -MoNkEy Posted by fei long on 01:04:2001 06:18 AM: so should i just switch to storm to replace cyclops, is there anyone else good against strom besides capcom and blackheart's assist cause i just dont find those two any interesting to play with !? naw pryde it was the day before school started at downtown arcade , someday ill meet you and challenge you , who do you play with? o well ~Payce ouT~ Posted by Pryde on 01:04:2001 07:19 AM: You may have already played me. I have the best Storm in Boston. Posted by fei long on 01:04:2001 11:52 PM: what school do you go to pryde? since you think you have the best storm then tell me how i would lay with and against her? o yeah give me some strom help people, ~payce ouT~ if at first i beat you in battle come again so i can kick your ass again Posted by fei long on 01:04:2001 11:54 PM: "since you think you have the best storm then tell me how i would lay with and against her?" mad thats kind of sick , i meant play not lay Posted by Pryde on 01:05:2001 03:35 AM: Rushing or Runaway Storm. Posted by Enforcer on 01:05:2001 07:10 AM: pryde..how do you play rushdown and runaway storm? Posted by Toan on 01:05:2001 10:59 AM: Yeah, I would like to know some tips and strats with Storm also, Rushdown and Runaway. Also, which assist would you use with her? I have been always using projectile for a while now, but wasn't too clear if it was the right choice. Posted by Nate X Grey on 01:05:2001 06:52 PM: Hey hey! Pryde teaches MvsC2! I'm rather interested in learning a few new things about Storm too. Don't disappoint me! DefiNATEly NOT Cable... Posted by Pryde on 01:05:2001 11:16 PM: . [This message has been edited by Pryde (edited 02-04-2001).] Posted by Devil_X on 01:06:2001 02:56 AM: i think the best anti storm character is sentinel, hes a mean bastard and you cant superjump away from him and throw typhoons, hes too freakin fast in flight mode he can just get up there and knock her down with some fierce attacks. just give him a good assist like blackheart and that biootch storm is going to be forced to fight you, which is a pretty even match imo, which is all you can ask for. Posted by Pryde on 01:06:2001 04:42 AM: quote: Originally posted by Devil_X: i think the best anti storm character is sentinel, hes a mean bastard and you cant superjump away from him and throw typhoons, hes too freakin fast in flight mode he can just get up there and knock her down with some fierce attacks. just give him a good assist like blackheart and that biootch storm is going to be forced to fight you, which is a pretty even match imo, which is all you can ask for. Sorry man, but Sentinel loses to Storm bad. Posted by Pryde on 01:09:2001 09:10 AM: You eant a good anti-Storm? Try CapCom assist. Posted by fei long on 01:09:2001 11:56 PM: hey pryde do you think you could help me with my storm someday? ~payce ouT~ if at first i beat you in battle come again so i can kick your ass again Posted by COMBO FIEND on 01:10:2001 09:21 AM: With Cable you can totally control all the space of the match. With Cable jump with fierce plus assist with Spiral projectile and throw a rdhs freezebomb and hold it till it gets to over her head and then run in and constantly jab and short low plus assist with spiral and throw for god sakes. And if she does get up jump close to her and throw a freezebomb, it arcs up so she has to block it and it brings her down. With Spiral just call swords when she's in the air and when she comes down throw them like a maniac for block damage. Also constantly dash in with the swords, and jump and make a ring so Storm has to block it so she can't get off the ground. If the Storm gets up and throws typhoons just teleport and hold one of the punch buttons to appear slightly above, then jab short her out of the sky. Posted by Pryde on 01:10:2001 09:01 PM: quote: Originally posted by fei long: hey pryde do you think you could help me with my storm someday? ~payce ouT~ if at first i beat you in battle come again so i can kick your ass again All you need is to watch my Storm in action. Posted by fei long on 01:11:2001 05:39 AM: one more thing pryde, are you the stephen , im not going to say your last name cause i know it pisses you off, if so im one of mikes friends and im raymond chan's cousin ~payce ouT~ Posted by Pryde on 01:11:2001 07:02 AM: hells yeah that's me, did i play you today? Posted by fei long on 01:11:2001 11:45 PM: aight coo, your storm is nice, no i didnt play you , i remember i did once though, ill see you around , keep beating the shit out of people, ~payce ouT~ Posted by blazeup on 01:12:2001 02:00 AM: commando is the best assist to use but a good person to use is guile. superjump and do a flash kick stops the running bs. storm sux!! Posted by Pryde on 01:12:2001 03:32 AM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: commando is the best assist to use but a good person to use is guile. superjump and do a flash kick stops the running bs. storm sux!! Damn scrub, Storm ownz Guile for free. Posted by blazeup on 01:12:2001 03:56 AM: scrub storm is shitty son. it seems no one knows anything about guile Posted by hang on 01:12:2001 12:01 PM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: scrub storm is shitty son. it seems no one knows anything about guile You must have never play against a good storm before. Guile has no chance beating a good storm. I mean if you try to air flash kick storm, all she has to do is block when she is in mid air for god sake and then you are dead after. Guile is not even close to being effective in mvsc2. If you have ever play against a good keepaway team then you will know what I mean. As far as storm is concerned, do you think you have any other way to hit storm back down when she gets all the way up on top of the screen? Even if you can air flash kick her a couple of times in the air, don't you think she will block the next time then super your ass? Don't call someone a scrub before you know what you are talking about. As far as guile is concerned, what else can you do beside dash in attack then air combo or super? probably not much, right? If you can win with a guile team against other keepaway team or better rushing team in your local arcades, those guys must suck big time. [This message has been edited by hang (edited 01-12-2001).] Posted by hang on 01:12:2001 12:03 PM: Storm is good. enough said. [This message has been edited by hang (edited 01-12-2001).] Posted by Pryde on 01:12:2001 10:27 PM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: scrub storm is shitty son. it seems no one knows anything about guile Man.... You don't know shit about MvC2. I'm one of the top ten in east Coast and you're gonna tell me that Storm is shitty. Guile is one of the worst players in the fucking game. Posted by ShadyK on 01:12:2001 10:28 PM: quote: Originally posted by Pryde: [B]I do manual SJ Fierce and instantly dash down fierce.[B] Holy shit, I thought /I/ was the only one who did that. TIGHT. I love that shit. heh heh Posted by BrEaThE ~525~ DeEp on 01:12:2001 10:39 PM: So let me get this straight....your suppose to super jump while doing a fierce than dash down immediately with another fierce? hmm i gotta try that. Posted by fLoE on 01:13:2001 01:12 AM: pryde u play rush down storm now?? Posted by blazeup on 01:13:2001 02:58 AM: i dont know shit about mvc and ive never played a good storm... but i dont lose. and ive played storm at the best her sorry ass could possibly be. guile might lose to storm one on one but with assists she cant do shit but try to build levels. so suck me pipe Posted by hang on 01:13:2001 01:30 PM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: i dont know shit about mvc and ive never played a good storm... but i dont lose. and ive played storm at the best her sorry ass could possibly be. guile might lose to storm one on one but with assists she cant do shit but try to build levels. so suck me pipe Then are you saying that storm can't use assist to help her, but only Guile can? or storm can't play along with any assist but then guile can? Man, you suck and you might as well stop posting any more of your stupid opinions to prevent further more embarassing yourself. First, since you haven't played a good storm, why would you say you have used her to her fullest? I think you are just playing her like a guile doing some stupid thing like wk,wk, d+hk, super, but that is meaningness to storm. Just another scrub in the forum. Posted by Pryde on 01:13:2001 09:21 PM: quote: Originally posted by fLoE: pryde u play rush down storm now?? I'm learning Floe, but so far it's good, but not Justin magneto good. Posted by Pryde on 01:13:2001 09:23 PM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: i dont know shit about mvc and ive never played a good storm... but i dont lose. and ive played storm at the best her sorry ass could possibly be. guile might lose to storm one on one but with assists she cant do shit but try to build levels. so suck me pipe I'll rush Guuile down so bad that you won't even have a chance to call assist out and if the assist does come out, he/she is gonna eat a hail Storm and that's a free 40% damage right there. I'll cross you up left and right, you won't even know which way to block. Posted by fei long on 01:14:2001 06:19 AM: to clear things up storms lighting super is , qcf or hcf, pleas tell me which one so my lighting attack into lightning super will finally connect in the air combo, ive been doing it one way and it works but just to clear things up Posted by hang on 01:14:2001 11:16 AM: Lighting super is done by hcf+pp. Posted by BrEaThE ~525~ DeEp on 01:15:2001 08:28 AM: Damn...so you guys are from east coast egh? i really wish there were really good rush down players here. i wanna learn how to rush so bad. my magneto's come along but it's my storm that i need A LOT of work on. so pryde...are u gonna make a post of "pryde teaches storm mvc2"?? i'd be really interested! "What do U mean I told u so? Was losing really that bad?" http://www.gamegen.com/Gamepics/animations/sf-sakura2.gif Posted by Pryde on 01:15:2001 09:24 AM: Well, I can, but I dunno if it's that effective yet. I mean It'll beat regular players, but I wanna see how it goes against other tournament players. My Storm is good, but I haven't really played her as much in tournaments. Posted by Nate X Grey on 01:15:2001 06:36 PM: quote: Originally posted by BrEaThE ~525~ DeEp: [Bso pryde...are u gonna make a post of "pryde teaches storm mvc2"?? i'd be really interested! [/B] This thread IS "Pryde teaches MvsC2"! By the way, do you guys think that Storm's shorter air dashing distance does have its advantages over Magneto's longer one? Because I dunno why, but I find my rush Storm more effective against keepaway than Magneto. Maybe its because Mag's dash is longer and can be punished easier. I dunno. What do you guys think? I'd really like to hear some opinions. DefiNATEly NOT Cable... Posted by tubsy3 on 01:17:2001 12:37 AM: ummmm mr pryde? im from iowa and i was wondering how you are so good with storm. i hear u capitalize on everything! i could only how to beat u! come down to iowa sometime and i will show u how good we are! Posted by Archangel21 on 01:17:2001 12:58 AM: if you're thinking of swithing a character because all of the people u see use storm and they're good at it then i say never quit. so what if they're kicking you're character so bad? (not mad) i mean just try harder and eventually you'll show them how it's done to stop the crazy storm dash thing or what ever they're doing.. it's skill and don't just quit you still have the time to do it and make the best player of the game ever. now to stop storm, everytime she goes near to you, use an assist. (Jin, captain com anti air if u use this people) but as soon as they charge at you then send an assist then you go and start doing your combo with your assist too alright.... peace out and i hope that you get the best of all Archangel21 Posted by fei long on 01:17:2001 05:40 AM: thanx archangel but i have been using storm now and practicing regular air combos, now doing 1234 and either whirlwinds or lightning attack, once i get that done, ill start from the lightnig attack to super, but when i do connect the lightning attack im directly above or below so i dont know which is forward and backward so i mess up, i still use my old team but my spiral is just bad nowadays, , neways any help for triangle jumps or the superjump cancelled by air dash , ive seen the computer do it very well with storm and rogue and just wanted to ask any one on advice to the triangle jump easier so i can add to my storm and mags rushdown arsenal ~Payce~X~ouT~ Posted by Jinmaster on 01:18:2001 03:32 AM: Heh, we've gone from how top beat storm to how to play her. I've been using her since Viscant first avocated her usefulness. FOr her AC, just launch, 1,2,3,4, then let the stick be neutral! Hit short and fierce for the lightning attack. Then super. Thats the easiest way to do it. Neutral lighting attack is forward, so you can super easier by not holding forward for it. Secondly, SJ up with fierce and dashing down with fierce is an old way of building meter wihtout having to be far from the ground. The advantage was that one can get down and call assists and rush down easier. Trust me, this is an old thing to do, and there are better ways to rush down with storm.... to say the least. -Micah Posted by Pryde on 01:18:2001 06:28 AM: quote: Originally posted by Jinmaster: Heh, we've gone from how top beat storm to how to play her. I've been using her since Viscant first avocated her usefulness. FOr her AC, just launch, 1,2,3,4, then let the stick be neutral! Hit short and fierce for the lightning attack. Then super. Thats the easiest way to do it. Neutral lighting attack is forward, so you can super easier by not holding forward for it. Secondly, SJ up with fierce and dashing down with fierce is an old way of building meter wihtout having to be far from the ground. The advantage was that one can get down and call assists and rush down easier. Trust me, this is an old thing to do, and there are better ways to rush down with storm.... to say the least. -Micah It maybe the easiest way, but I find holding up forward a bit more easier now, since I've been practicing for awhile now. Plus holding upforward usually gives me more hits then leaving the stick neutral. Jumping up fierce and dashing down fierce is old, but it's efficient, true there are better ways to rush in with her, but Fierce leaves a good block stun for you to attack low. Posted by kasuya on 01:18:2001 10:28 PM: Here is one of my concern: When you DHC into Storm's hail storm super(before the starting animation of the super finishes), is it possible for Cable to do an istant AHVB can hit you? If so, do both of you end up getting hit and bounce away? Or what happens? [This message has been edited by kasuya (edited 01-18-2001).] Posted by Pryde on 01:19:2001 12:41 AM: All DHC's are usually instant so you don't need to worry about cable AHVBing you when you DHC into Storm's Hail Storm. Ohter supers like Hyper Sentinel Forces and so on you are able to move, but not in Hail Storm. Posted by kasuya on 01:19:2001 06:26 AM: quote: Originally posted by Pryde: All DHC's are usually instant so you don't need to worry about cable AHVBing you when you DHC into Storm's Hail Storm. Ohter supers like Hyper Sentinel Forces and so on you are able to move, but not in Hail Storm. Thanks man. That is good news in one sense, and bad news in another sense. Because I use both Cable and Storm for different teams. So when I fight a storm team with cable, I can't AHVB her when she dhc , but the good news is when I use storm, I don't have to worry about AHVB when I DHC into hailstorm. Posted by blazeup on 01:19:2001 06:42 AM: oh you think you can cross me up huh. i will hit you with sonic hurricane so fast you shit you drawers. then when you dash.....bam....c.lk, c.lk, s.hk, cross-fire blitz. sonic boom, flash kick, hopping knee, upside down kick all for dat ass. --nobody calls me a scrub and lives Posted by kasuya on 01:19:2001 06:49 AM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: oh you think you can cross me up huh. i will hit you with sonic hurricane so fast you shit you drawers. then when you dash.....bam....c.lk, c.lk, s.hk, cross-fire blitz. sonic boom, flash kick, hopping knee, upside down kick all for dat ass. --nobody calls me a scrub and lives Calling scrub is an insult to all the other scrub. Retard !! Posted by beta on 01:19:2001 10:13 AM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: oh you think you can cross me up huh. i will hit you with sonic hurricane so fast you shit you drawers. then when you dash.....bam....c.lk, c.lk, s.hk, cross-fire blitz. sonic boom, flash kick, hopping knee, upside down kick all for dat ass. --nobody calls me a scrub and lives C'mon. you're talking to a tournament player. He will cross you up calling doom. If you do anything like this, Doom will hit you, typhoon, hail storm, half of your life goes away. You can't call assist because doom will be on the other side, and your assit will eat the combo too Posted by blazeup on 01:19:2001 10:16 PM: no my akuma asiist will lite dooms bitch ass up and then launcher, uh, ah, whelp, huh, crrossfire-blitz bitches... Posted by Monkey on 01:19:2001 10:30 PM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: no my akuma asiist will lite dooms bitch ass up and then launcher, uh, ah, whelp, huh, crrossfire-blitz bitches... your akuma assist??? your using akuma??? thats like playing 2 characters instead of 3... http://www.geocities.com/dragonkahn/monkey.gif -Monkey Posted by blazeup on 01:19:2001 11:40 PM: yeah akuma, crossover, sonic....NO Posted by blahblah112233 on 01:20:2001 04:12 AM: i dont think any guiules can take on storm. she can play keep away the whole game and just use hail storms and win. also she is faster and can wipe out ur assist and sonic booms with typhoons. she can take out a whole team like nothin. so think about wut ur saying. Posted by Nek on 01:20:2001 04:32 AM: CapCom + Blackheart = headaches for Storm. That works for me. Posted by WhiTe ReFlection on 01:20:2001 08:16 AM: personaly i'm a storm user...i know every single tricks to storm and let me tell u blackheart don't do crap to storm... Posted by WhiTe ReFlection on 01:20:2001 08:18 AM: it's easier then u think...!!! com'on people think think think! Posted by beta on 01:21:2001 09:53 AM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: no my akuma asiist will lite dooms bitch ass up and then launcher, uh, ah, whelp, huh, crrossfire-blitz bitches... Your assist will never catch doom, because he's on the other side. You didn't even understand what I wrote. BTW, go to some tourney with akuma and guile and you will see people l;aughing at you all the way, before and after your losses Posted by blazeup on 01:21:2001 12:40 PM: ive been practicin real hard w/ them and i think i have a good shot at ecc Posted by Nate X Grey on 01:21:2001 04:57 PM: Only one who gives runaway Storm problems are CapCom assist. Then again, you can always rush that shit down. DefiNATEly NOT Cable... Posted by Pryde on 01:21:2001 09:49 PM: quote: Originally posted by blazeup: ive been practicin real hard w/ them and i think i have a good shot at ecc You're gonna go to ECC? You will be tied for all of last place, so don't even bother going to ECC with a team that involves Guile and Akuma in it, cuz I can guarantee you that, you won't make it past 1st round LOSERS bracket. Posted by EndBringer on 01:22:2001 12:05 AM: Storm Dominates? First off greetings to the many gamers here at shoryuken. Been coming here for quite some time this site and gamefaqs r basiclly the only sites I go to. But anyway enough of the introductions. Don't get me wrong , storm is defintely top tier quality. But I'm not getting the idea of her being un-beatable. Doom, Blackheart, cap/com, Cable all pose serious problems for the queen of the air. Grounded even Strider or Cyclops will hurt her . She takes damage Badly and I think it comes down to if u control her space and slow her down she as pretty as she is , is toast burnt. Why does no one ever factor in the player element , u must beat the player ( break his or her traps , dis-rupt their game , stop their pace,etc ) A smarter player who study's the other person's game is a problem . In closing I've been on the losing end of storm many times , but I also learned that ahvb (x3) leaves a mark lol. Storm is strong , but not even Cable is un-beatable no offence or dis was intended... peace ewww my first post guess my status is scub oh well lol gotta start some where " I'll chisel your gravestone..Sleep Well.." [This message has been edited by EndBringer (edited 01-21-2001).] Posted by blazeup on 01:22:2001 12:33 AM: do you really think id lose...i dont kn0w. i really dont need an AA, cable and sentinel and take storm easy enough w/ patience... that is using sentinel.. Posted by WhiTe ReFlection on 01:22:2001 02:29 AM: yo blazeup...u can stick wif u're team but u have to cheap your way out of it! Posted by fei long on 01:22:2001 05:55 AM: if i were to go to say ... ECC which would be better for the present east coast style right now , storm-a cable-b cyclops-b or storm-a sentinal-c cable-a or b.for the first team i basically do what pryde taught me to do except im still working on her triangles, build meter chip then bring in cable as a cleanup with cyke seting him up for ahvbs and if it goes down to cyke most of the time i just have chip them to death or one MOB will be enough to put it in my favor. the second team i just made recently , do the same rushdown ( daym i have to learn the triangles) keepaway , build meter , do whirlwind xx hailstorm dhc HsF then repeat the laser rocket punch thing and that usually takes alot of chip damage off ,when i, run out of meter i just chip with sentinal and when i see a oppertunity i bring in cable and finish off, what do you guys think, i could always go back to spiral? ~payce out~ Posted by fei long on 01:22:2001 06:08 AM: i wasnt sure if my post made it so il shorten this one, if i were to go to say the ecc with the current east coast style who would i be better off with storm -a cable-a cyclops-b or storm-a sentinal-c cable-b, if you need team specifics on how i play with them then just ask meh, but storm is mostly how pryde taught meh how to play her, except.. owell i ll tell you later ~payce ouT~ Posted by beta on 01:22:2001 08:36 AM: quote: Originally posted by Nate X Grey: Only one who gives runaway Storm problems are CapCom assist. Then again, you can always rush that shit down. DefiNATEly NOT Cable... How come you avoid BHs. It's not the air dasg escape too risky(since the opponent can hit you while air dashing ) and difficult to do at some times/positions? Any details would be apprecuated. thanks Posted by BrEaThE ~525~ DeEp on 01:22:2001 11:47 PM: Okay...i've been practicing...but my triangle jumps dont look right..they look slow and punishable. i've seen the computer do a whole lot better...being able to triagle jump..combo..triangle jump again..an combo...AND IT ALL CONNECTS...its one long fat combo. so umm PRYDE...care to help me out on how to perfect my triangle jumps? Posted by Pryde on 01:23:2001 09:06 AM: Well Breathe.... the first think you need to get down is rhythm. You know what I'm saying? Try jumping up and dashing back down over and over 'til you get the rhythm right. It'll be easier to do it this way, but when you perfect the motion, then you can start doing cross overs with Magneto and Storm. You understand what I'm saying? Posted by fei long on 01:24:2001 06:07 AM: yupz like the dude said rythme, i have very good rythme, too bad my triangle jumps stil get wacked by ahvbx3 , o but the rythme on my gaurd break with cable is very good, its so easy once you get the timing down, once i cn do a few triangles done stright against the com ill start using them against actual people All times are GMT. The time now is 12:53 AM. Show all 72 posts from this thread on one page Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.4 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000, 2001.